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vadimcream Says:
Aug 24, 2010 - @mindmelt13 I know all about MKUltra and it's existence does not make 99.9% of this absurd, paranoid crap any more legitimate.
mindmelt13 Says:
Aug 24, 2010 - @vadimcream It's not absurd or paranoid, the problem is people refuse to see and accept what's right in front of their faces. The symbolism, which is the language of the elite, is plastered all over musicians album covers and lyrics, and seen all throughout movies. That is by design, not by accident.
vadimcream Says:
Aug 24, 2010 - @mindmelt13 Dude, it's so fucking absurd I can't even start. The idea that some secret society decides who gets famous and dictates what they put into their art... It's ridiculous beyond words. I'm in the entertainment industry, I know a lot of these people that are featured in this video... Believe what ever you want, dude, as I'm sure you will, but I'm telling you, it's a freaking fairytale and not even a halfway believable one at that.
TheLastEnglishmen Says:
Aug 25, 2010 - OMFG How dumb are we?Its being force fed to us and we think we are losing weight?.
TheLastEnglishmen Says:
Aug 25, 2010 - @vadimcream STFU! you dumb fuck i hope you dieYou obviously don't work in the Entertainment industry's because you wouldn't be on you-tube like us gullible and brainwashed fucks now would you!.
vadimcream Says:
Aug 25, 2010 - @TheLastEnglishmen Sorry dude, I'm alive and kicking despite your gracious well wishes. "Gullible + Brainwashed fucks" like yourself (you said it, not me) are a morbid curiosity of mine. It really fascinates me how people can delude themselves into believing something this patently absurd. It's a pretty big inspiration on my writing and that's why you've found me here engaging in polite back and forths with the mindmelt13 as well as belligerent assholes like yrself. Now kindly go suck it.
TheLastEnglishmen Says:
Aug 25, 2010 - @vadimcream Blah Blah Blah Me no read past second sentence lulz.So tell me fuck face you think the state the world is in is normal?Dunno what country your from.
vadimcream Says:
Aug 25, 2010 - @TheLastEnglishmen How does the state of the world validate or invalidate the claims of this video? But since you asked, yes it is "normal", but I think the world has perpetually been in a fucked up state because man is kinda messed up. So tell me, do you think that anyone who denies evolution and believes that the stories of the bible are 100% fact (Alex Jones) or who believes the world is actually run by blood drinking lizard people (David Icke) could EVER be reliable judges of reality?
TheLastEnglishmen Says:
Aug 25, 2010 - @vadimcream exactly!! Normal.....We are programmed to a point we think its normal.Its normal that UK and USA invade Iraq for the trade of blood for oil.Yep it is also normal for the media to flash subliminal messages while i watch a movie or cartoon.All i am going to say is we will never understand reality and who are you to question it?.To understand what goes on is like a monkey upstanding language and culture.
vadimcream Says:
Aug 25, 2010 - @TheLastYes, of course we will never have a full picture, but that doesn't mean that we can't eliminate certain unreasonable possibilities by applying critical thinking.There's a lot of bullshit and propaganda in the media + entertainment industry alike, but that doesn't mean that it's controlled by some satanic secret society with magical powers.It's great to question things, but the "answers" a video like this offers are as easy to dismiss if one just applies rigid critical thought.cont
vadimcream Says:
Aug 25, 2010 - @TheLastEnglish Don't know about u but when I see someone who denies reality to the point that they claim evolution is bogus and that Lizard people exist I immediately know that they can't be trusted to form rational, wise ideas as to how the world functions.The world is fucked up place. We don't need to project fantasies on top of it though. Just cuz a Oil co. logo has a star in it or Lady Gaga covers one eye does'nt mean these are "subliminal messages" orchestrated by the "evil elite".
choadboymedina Says:
Aug 25, 2010 - "the most evil thing i think the entertainment industry actually does is make us so obsessed and interested in what celebrities are doing while at the same time distracting us from actual and terrible events that take place in the world every single day."Or its the fact that most people are just idiots who don't have lives...A friend of mine told me to check some Illuminati stuff out and I did, but I don't buy any of it, yet I'm not a mindless drone who cares about celebrities....
Biggithor1 Says:
Aug 26, 2010 - I neverunderstood why people are ubcest with celebs... their just people like you and me, but people tthat cant go to a mall or cant go shopping without being notice and harrased, I could never do it, I dont want to be famous, i pitty these people.
mindmelt13 Says:
Aug 26, 2010 - @vadimcream You're right I will believe what I want, because I've done my research. I can't make anyone believe anything and that's fine, but come one day everyone will know and there will be alot of butthurt people that can't believe that all of it was actually true. Anyways peace.
vadimcream Says:
Aug 26, 2010 - @mindmelt13 That's cool. Just reading in general though is not effective research, you have to know that the sources your getting your facts from are reliable. Take the two key people from which this vid is based, Alex Jones and David Icke. Alex Jones denies evolution, and believes the bible is historically accurate. Icke on the other hand believes that a secret race of blood drinking lizards controls the world. If they are that off on such basics, how can you trust them on ANYTHING?
mindmelt13 Says:
Aug 26, 2010 - @vadimcream Those 2 are disinfo agents that work for the system. They put out 90% truth too sucker people in and then throw another 10% of bullshit on top of the truth. Then they can be discredited very easily because of their lies i.e, Arabs own Hollywood etc. They purposely throw a turd in the punch bowl, so people like yourself say they are full of it and liars, and they are, but not about everything.
vadimcream Says:
Aug 26, 2010 - @mindmelt13 "Disinfo agents"? I've heard this argument before and it's always amusing to me because every conspiracy theorist always accuse other conspiracy theorists of being fakes, when they don't believe the exact conpiracies that they themselves believe.And just what are they really doing? They (and you) are arbitrarily deciding what, out of all this unsubstantiated crazyness is real and what isn't, when in fact 95% of it is fantasy to begin with.
NuclearHendrix Says:
Sep 2, 2010 - @vadimcream What if these "lizard men" evolved from dinosaurs? If you believe that humans evolved from primates, then you have to believe in the possibility of dinosaur evolution.
vadimcream Says:
Sep 2, 2010 - If any such fantastical creature existed (be it unicorn, leprachaun or blood drinking Illuminati lizard man) it WOULD be through the process of evolution that they came about. The fact is we have ZERO evidence to support their existance outside of the frivolous claims of a few raving lunatics. I can't tell if your ridiclous question was designed to pul my leg or if you actually thought that made some sort of point that either shed light and or put a hole thru my argument... It sure didn't.
NuclearHendrix Says:
Sep 2, 2010 - @vadimcream Make claims and speculate... It's what everyone does.
vadimcream Says:
Sep 2, 2010 - @NuclearHendrix No. Science uses verifiable facts to draw it's conclusions, it does not just make random claims based on hearsay. If one takes your advice they could believe in any fanciful claims from the existence of BigFoot to DarthVader and Santa Claus. Fortunately there is such a thing as demonstrable fact and we can use it to determine what is likely to be real and what is likely to be a crock of shit. The blood sucking illuminati lizard men go straight into the crock of shit category.
NuclearHendrix Says:
Sep 2, 2010 - @vadimcream Conclusions based on speculation.... "We think this is how this works or how that happened".
vadimcream Says:
Sep 2, 2010 - @NuclearHendrix Are you implying that scientific principals are "speculation"? That the theory of relativity for instance was just some stab in the dark that some scientist just pulled out of his ass 'cause he thought it sounded cool? Is that what you think science is, that it's all just based on "speculation"?
rtyubo Says:
Sep 4, 2010 - dan brown opened my eyes to all of this.we got to wake up.fight back



mindmelt13 Says:
Aug 24, 2010 - @vadimcream MKUltra is not a theory, that is a fact, go do some research.